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no matter where you are located in the

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no matter where you are located in the

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world the ucla center for middle east

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world the ucla center for middle east

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development would like to welcome you to

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development would like to welcome you to

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our fifth episode of a unique monthly

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our fifth episode of a unique monthly

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series called cmed chats my name is

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series called cmed chats my name is

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emily pistole a center associate at cmed

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emily pistole a center associate at cmed

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and i'm very excited that you have

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and i'm very excited that you have

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joined us today

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joined us today

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the cement chat series engages

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the cement chat series engages

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charismatic guests who are from the

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charismatic guests who are from the

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middle east and north africa or who are

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middle east and north africa or who are

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connected to the region in some capacity

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connected to the region in some capacity

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our equally engaging hosts will vary

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our equally engaging hosts will vary

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throughout the series to keep the

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throughout the series to keep the

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conversations diverse together they will

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conversations diverse together they will

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sit down for casual one-on-one chats

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sit down for casual one-on-one chats

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that will cover a variety of topics and

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that will cover a variety of topics and

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highlight the many voices and realities

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highlight the many voices and realities

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that enrich the colorful region we

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that enrich the colorful region we

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lovingly know as mina

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lovingly know as mina

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all sima chats episodes will be recorded

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all sima chats episodes will be recorded

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and can be viewed on siemens website or

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and can be viewed on siemens website or

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youtube page within 24 hours of this

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youtube page within 24 hours of this

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we will not be accepting audience

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we will not be accepting audience

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questions for our live guests however if

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questions for our live guests however if

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you have any logistics questions feel

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you have any logistics questions feel

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free to let us know in the q a window at

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free to let us know in the q a window at

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the bottom of your screen

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the bottom of your screen

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and without further ado i will pass the

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and without further ado i will pass the

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microphone to siemens director professor

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microphone to siemens director professor

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hello everyone and thank you so much uh

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hello everyone and thank you so much uh

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and hello to everyone

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and hello to everyone

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from around the world

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today i'll be sitting down with a

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today i'll be sitting down with a

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personal friend

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and middle east super expert to discuss

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and middle east super expert to discuss

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his career experiences and insights

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his career experiences and insights

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about recent events that impact the

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about recent events that impact the

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region aaron david miller is a senior

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region aaron david miller is a senior

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fellow at the carnegie endowment for

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fellow at the carnegie endowment for

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international peace focusing on u.s

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international peace focusing on u.s

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i'm going to say a few words about him i

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i'm going to say a few words about him i

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can't possibly be fair because he has

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can't possibly be fair because he has

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had such an illustrious

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had such an illustrious

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career so far

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career so far

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uh he has written five books including

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uh he has written five books including

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his most recent the end of greatness why

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his most recent the end of greatness why

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america can't have and doesn't want

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america can't have and doesn't want

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another great president

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another great president

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paul grave 2014

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paul grave 2014

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and the much too promised land america's

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and the much too promised land america's

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elusive search for arab israeli peace

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elusive search for arab israeli peace

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from bantam between 1978 and 2003 miller

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served at the state department as a

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served at the state department as a

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historian analyst negotiator and adviser

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to republican and democratic secretary

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of state where he helped formulate

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of state where he helped formulate

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u.s policy on the middle east and the

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u.s policy on the middle east and the

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arab-israeli peace process most recently

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arab-israeli peace process most recently

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as the senior advisor for arab israeli

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as the senior advisor for arab israeli

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negotiations he also served as the

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negotiations he also served as the

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deputy uh

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um aaron was a public policy scholar

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um aaron was a public policy scholar

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vice president for new initiatives and

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the whitter wilson international center

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for scholars he is also a global affairs

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for scholars he is also a global affairs

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analyst for cnn i watch him do you uh

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analyst for cnn i watch him do you uh

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his articles have appeared in the new

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foreign policy usatoday and cnn.com he's

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a frequent commentator on npr bbc

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and sirius xm radio so let me introduce

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and sirius xm radio so let me introduce

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to you aaron david miller

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to you aaron david miller

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you see uh aaron

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let's spend a few minutes because we're

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let's spend a few minutes because we're

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supposed to go through your career

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supposed to go through your career

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and first what led you to go into

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and first what led you to go into

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government originally

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i don't know if it's true anymore it was

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i don't know if it's true anymore it was

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certainly true in the late 60s early 70s

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that a student in this case me at the

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that a student in this case me at the

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university of michigan could be

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university of michigan could be

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profoundly influenced by two

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of my professors

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both had come to the university of

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both had come to the university of

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michigan both were trained historians

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michigan both were trained historians

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one richard mitchell was the authority

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one richard mitchell was the authority

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prominent book in english on on the

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muslim brotherhood on the hua and the

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muslim brotherhood on the hua and the

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was a historian of americans at war both

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was a historian of americans at war both

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served in government um

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at least in mitchell's case nominally

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at least in mitchell's case nominally

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jerry served in africa and dick mitchell

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and the stories they told the

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sort of lost its appeal

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from my perspective focusing on america

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then in the middle east now in the world

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influenced by jerry linderman and dick

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my career at least on the professional

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my career at least on the professional

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government side was highlighted largely

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government side was highlighted largely

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rather than success

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the road that i traveled

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i had many regrets but the road that i

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i would not have picked a a different

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i would not have picked a a different

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you know uh it's very interesting uh

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you know uh it's very interesting uh

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your your question i think today

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your your question i think today

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uh there are

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representatives of of government

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don't have the experience that you had

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don't have the experience that you had

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it's my own feeling

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it's my own feeling

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being ucla for so many years and um i

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being ucla for so many years and um i

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think it's a shame for america because

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think it's a shame for america because

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uh there and david miller's don't have

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uh there and david miller's don't have

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the opportunity to get excited about

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the opportunity to get excited about

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government i think this is a very

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government i think this is a very

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important point and i think it hurts us

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important point and i think it hurts us

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but uh let's go on

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what was government service like uh and

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what was government service like uh and

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do you have a couple examples of your

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do you have a couple examples of your

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most interesting experiences well i you

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most interesting experiences well i you

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know i started i'm a professional

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know i started i'm a professional

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historian and first i wrote five books

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historian and first i wrote five books

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but only one i would argue was a serious

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but only one i would argue was a serious

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history book was my dissertation

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history book was my dissertation

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during the formative years of that

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my early years in government had nothing

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my early years in government had nothing

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to do with policy i started as a

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to do with policy i started as a

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editing the foreign relations series of

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the united states i was then offered an

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the united states i was then offered an

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opportunity with very little experience

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to become an intelligence analyst state

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formidable years the early 80s and i was

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formidable years the early 80s and i was

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charged with covering

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reference point given the challenging

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reference point given the challenging

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cia must have had 10 analysts alone

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cia must have had 10 analysts alone

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to deal with lebanon

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i was the state department's only

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those are very uh challenging years uh

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those are very uh challenging years uh

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israel invaded lebanon on june of 82.

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israel invaded lebanon on june of 82.

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for those several years uh

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it was as if i was um on the front lines

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it was as if i was um on the front lines

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in no more than 46 lines

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in no more than 46 lines

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crisply and economically rendered for

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crisply and economically rendered for

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the secretary of state of the united

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the secretary of state of the united

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it was during those years that uh i also

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it was during those years that uh i also

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experienced i suppose

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it was my exposure to

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it was my exposure to

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what i had missed in the 60s which was

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what i had missed in the 60s which was

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heavy involvement in

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heavy involvement in

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in vietnam

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in vietnam

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either as an activist as my wife lindsay

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either as an activist as my wife lindsay

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reminds me i basically sat out the 60s

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reminds me i basically sat out the 60s

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well at least in most in most dimensions

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well at least in most in most dimensions

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of the human experience lindsay did not

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of the human experience lindsay did not

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i mean she was protesting demonstrating

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i mean she was protesting demonstrating

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and then some

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and then some

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those intelligence assessments

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those intelligence assessments

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that we jointly produced with cia

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that we jointly produced with cia

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challenged the basis of american policy

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challenged the basis of american policy

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in a enterprise

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in a enterprise

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which i would argue was doomed from the

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which i would argue was doomed from the

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beginning and it ended tragically

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beginning and it ended tragically

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with the deaths of 241 marines

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with the deaths of 241 marines

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in lebanon

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in lebanon

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in 1983.

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in 1983.

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i remember and i became very much

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i remember and i became very much

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interested even before i even met a

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interested even before i even met a

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secretary of state in the whole policy

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secretary of state in the whole policy

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enterprise during those years because it

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enterprise during those years because it

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was as a young intelligence analyst i

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was as a young intelligence analyst i

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think one of the highlights of

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think one of the highlights of

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my early years was

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sitting at my desk one morning

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sitting at my desk one morning

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and uh the phone rings

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and uh the phone rings

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and the voice on the other end of the

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phone says uh

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phone says uh

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it's the white house sit room calling

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it's the white house sit room calling

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could you hold

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could you hold

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so i'm holding um wondering what's this

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so i'm holding um wondering what's this

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all about the next voice i hear is the

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all about the next voice i hear is the

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following

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aaron this is vice president george h.w

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aaron this is vice president george h.w

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i read one of your memos on lebanon

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i read one of your memos on lebanon

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and here's what he said i will forever

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and here's what he said i will forever

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remember it i know how busy you are

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remember it i know how busy you are

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but i wonder if you have a few minutes

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but i wonder if you have a few minutes

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to talk about

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to talk about

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that phone call

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that phone call

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you know was formative because here was

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you know was formative because here was

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a guy who knew what he didn't know

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a guy who knew what he didn't know

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and seemed to be in a hurry to find out

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and seemed to be in a hurry to find out

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kennedy used to call the vietnam

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kennedy used to call the vietnam

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who worked for the bureau of

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who worked for the bureau of

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intelligence and research inr

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intelligence and research inr

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which i i would argue the 16 current

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which i i would argue the 16 current

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units of the intelligence community inr

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still produces

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still produces

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the best intelligence assessments

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the best intelligence assessments

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largely because an inr analyst

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largely because an inr analyst

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there's only one of them and they're

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there's only one of them and they're

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forced

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to look not only at the granular but the

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to look not only at the granular but the

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world from 30 000 feet

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world from 30 000 feet

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but i i got off the phone and i thought

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but i i got off the phone and i thought

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to myself

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to myself

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curiosity an essential

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curiosity an essential

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requirement of

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success in the presidency

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success in the presidency

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and and leadership

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and and leadership

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so i i also developed during those years

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so i i also developed during those years

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a high degree of respect for

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a high degree of respect for

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intelligence analysis and the importance

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intelligence analysis and the importance

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of standing up to power

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of standing up to power

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when in fact the analysis

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when in fact the analysis

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went the other way which

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went the other way which

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which brings me to this so many

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which brings me to this so many

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different experiences steve but the

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different experiences steve but the

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to that one

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to that one

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was the second briefing we did for

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was the second briefing we did for

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president bill clinton

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president bill clinton

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uh three days before the camp david

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uh three days before the camp david

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in july of 2000.

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in july of 2000.

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clinton is credit the invitation's

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clinton is credit the invitation's

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already been issued for the summit but

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already been issued for the summit but

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clinton to his credit went around the

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clinton to his credit went around the

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room and asked everyone

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room and asked everyone

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whether or not it was a good idea that

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whether or not it was a good idea that

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he go

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he go

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i was the last person to speak

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i was the last person to speak

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i was the most junior person in that

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i was the most junior person in that

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secretary of state national security

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secretary of state national security

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president's political advisers

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president's political advisers

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everyone more or less said the same

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everyone more or less said the same

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thing mr president you have to go

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thing mr president you have to go

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because if you don't go there maybe

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because if you don't go there maybe

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uh you care about this issue you have to

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uh you care about this issue you have to

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use the last six months of your

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use the last six months of your

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presidency to see what it is you can do

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presidency to see what it is you can do

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now i remember thinking to myself that i

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now i remember thinking to myself that i

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had a moment right there there was no

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had a moment right there there was no

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way camp david was going to succeed

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way camp david was going to succeed

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barack wasn't ready however forthcoming

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barack wasn't ready however forthcoming

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some of his ideas

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some of his ideas

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were arafat came to camp david to

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were arafat came to camp david to

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survive

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survive

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and we weren't ready

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and we weren't ready

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this was not camp david 1 when jimmy

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this was not camp david 1 when jimmy

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controlled the

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text the draft which went through 23

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text the draft which went through 23

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plus iterations

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plus iterations

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the summit ran us we didn't run the sub

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the summit ran us we didn't run the sub

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but instead of telling the president of

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but instead of telling the president of

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the united states what i should have

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the united states what i should have

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told him

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which was mr president you will not

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which was mr president you will not

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reach an agreement at camp david listen

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reach an agreement at camp david listen

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to what i'm telling you you have to

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to what i'm telling you you have to

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start now

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start now

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to think about how to have this summit

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to think about how to have this summit

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end in a way that doesn't produce a

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end in a way that doesn't produce a

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climate of mutual recrimination

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climate of mutual recrimination

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suspicion and violence instead of doing

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suspicion and violence instead of doing

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that

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i said what everybody else did

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i said what everybody else did

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it and i i still regret it the reason i

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it and i i still regret it the reason i

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did that because i know had i said and i

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did that because i know had i said and i

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told that a sitting u.s president

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told that a sitting u.s president

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that he would fail at a summit

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that he would fail at a summit

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the invitations had had already been

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the invitations had had already been

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issued

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there would have been one less member of

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there would have been one less member of

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going to camp david or if they allowed

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going to camp david or if they allowed

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me to go i would have been rendered

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me to go i would have been rendered

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irrelevant

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irrelevant

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that's instructive

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that's instructive

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and it was not what i would call

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and it was not what i would call

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and it was certainly not truth to power

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and it was certainly not truth to power

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no matter what i would have said clinton

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no matter what i would have said clinton

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was going to camp david the invites were

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was going to camp david the invites were

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already out

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already out

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but our mindset might have been

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but our mindset might have been

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different

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different

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and in my judgment i think i

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and in my judgment i think i

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was a disappointment

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was a disappointment

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and was not serving the interests of the

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and was not serving the interests of the

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well all right how would you uh analyze

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well all right how would you uh analyze

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the presidents you worked for i

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the presidents you worked for i

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understand that you weren't in their

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understand that you weren't in their

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offices or whatever but you just given

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offices or whatever but you just given

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two examples

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two examples

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of a future president anna

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of a future president anna

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and the president um

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and the president um

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well first of all i work for half a

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well first of all i work for half a

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dozen secretaries of state

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dozen secretaries of state

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and uh they worked for the president

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and uh they worked for the president

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i had contact with all of them

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i had contact with all of them

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but did not work out of the white house

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but did not work out of the white house

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or for the white house

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or for the white house

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and

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and

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when it came to the issue that i

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when it came to the issue that i

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followed which was arab israeli

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followed which was arab israeli

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it was rare and still is

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it was rare and still is

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to find

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to find

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any president prepared to devote

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any president prepared to devote

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in a single-minded fashion

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in a single-minded fashion

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the kind of time and effort

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the kind of time and effort

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on the arab-israeli issue the

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on the arab-israeli issue the

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israeli-palestinian issue

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israeli-palestinian issue

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that might have been required

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that might have been required

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had the circumstances

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had the circumstances

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uh in favor of a negotiation and

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uh in favor of a negotiation and

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agreement

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agreement

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have been there

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have been there

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uh bill clinton in large part because

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uh bill clinton in large part because

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rabine and arafat

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rabine and arafat

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um

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gave him a piece of history invited him

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gave him a piece of history invited him

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into history

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into history

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with the sign of a historic yet flawed

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with the sign of a historic yet flawed

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and and ultimately

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and and ultimately

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unsuccessful uh set of agreements known

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unsuccessful uh set of agreements known

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as the ocelot process

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as the ocelot process

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devoted an enormous amount of attention

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devoted an enormous amount of attention

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to this issue he inherited a working

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to this issue he inherited a working

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process

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from george h.w bush which was madrid

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from george h.w bush which was madrid

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and to his credit he did not allow

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and to his credit he did not allow

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domestic politics

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domestic politics

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to alter the fact that there was a

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to alter the fact that there was a

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working negotiation

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working negotiation

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and could bill clinton turn the 90s

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and could bill clinton turn the 90s

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the decade in which he essentially

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the decade in which he essentially

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two-term president

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uh held the con and was in control

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uh held the con and was in control

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could he achieve some measure of success

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could he achieve some measure of success

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i i might point out by the way that the

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i i might point out by the way that the

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was the only decade in the last century

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was the only decade in the last century

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in which there was no

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in which there was no

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major

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israeli confrontation 48 56 67

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israeli confrontation 48 56 67

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the 90s came and went without a major

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the 90s came and went without a major

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confrontation i would argue part of that

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confrontation i would argue part of that

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reason

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part of it

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was a certain degree of ownership

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was a certain degree of ownership

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by arabs and israelis of their own

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by arabs and israelis of their own

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negotiations but also

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negotiations but also

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a measure of

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a measure of

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stewardship on the part of the united

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stewardship on the part of the united

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states even though we largely

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states even though we largely

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uh well you could say we didn't succeed

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uh well you could say we didn't succeed

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or we failed

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or we failed

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for a variety of reasons

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for a variety of reasons

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um

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it was it was an effort

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it was it was an effort

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uh by a u.s president who cared deeply

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uh by a u.s president who cared deeply

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about this issue

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about this issue

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and was prepared to to go a certain

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and was prepared to to go a certain

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to certain lengths

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to certain lengths

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in order to apply in the in the words of

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in order to apply in the in the words of

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the late sam lewis

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the late sam lewis

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the honey

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the honey

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and the vinegar the honey and the

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and the vinegar the honey and the

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vinegar required the incentives

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vinegar required the incentives

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and the disincentives

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and the disincentives

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required

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required

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to um

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to um

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bridge gaps that might have led to

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bridge gaps that might have led to

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an agreement

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an agreement

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um the presidents that followed dealt

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um the presidents that followed dealt

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epic episodically

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epic episodically

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i left the state department in 03 in

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i left the state department in 03 in

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january

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january

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uh several months before we invaded iraq

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uh several months before we invaded iraq

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the priorities of that administration

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the priorities of that administration

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uh

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uh

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were clear

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were clear

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they were not focused on arab israeli

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they were not focused on arab israeli

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peacemaking i left the department

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peacemaking i left the department

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largely because i had concluded

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largely because i had concluded

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that my relevance and role in this

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that my relevance and role in this

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process had run its course

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process had run its course

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so we we haven't we haven't seen another

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so we we haven't we haven't seen another

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us president invest the kind of time and

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us president invest the kind of time and

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energy

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that baker as the secretary of state

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that baker as the secretary of state

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or clinton uh as a president invested

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or clinton uh as a president invested

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and it may well be uh that we won't see

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and it may well be uh that we won't see

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another president um invest that kind of

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another president um invest that kind of

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time for some time to come

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time for some time to come

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but perhaps that could be changed by

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but perhaps that could be changed by

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events

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well um uh you've

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well um uh you've

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answered a couple of my questions let me

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answered a couple of my questions let me

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just ask you and then let's move on uh

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just ask you and then let's move on uh

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to your second um

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to your second um

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experience but let's um

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experience but let's um

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outside government um

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outside government um

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how about the secretaries of state

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how about the secretaries of state

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are there any that were particularly

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are there any that were particularly

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effective that you worked with well i

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effective that you worked with well i

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liked them all i respected them all i i

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liked them all i respected them all i i

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started working for george schultz um

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started working for george schultz um

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and suddenly the greatest impact i had

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and suddenly the greatest impact i had

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on the secretary of state during the 25

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on the secretary of state during the 25

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years of my career

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years of my career

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occurred on a tennis court in cairo

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occurred on a tennis court in cairo

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when george schultz is my doubles

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when george schultz is my doubles

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partner unfortunately

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partner unfortunately

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was hit in the back by an aaron's aaron

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was hit in the back by an aaron's aaron

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aaron serve

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aaron serve

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and i had pretensions to be a

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and i had pretensions to be a

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professional tennis player

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professional tennis player

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in my

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in my

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early days

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early days

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the first serve caught the secretary

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the first serve caught the secretary

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above his back brace

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above his back brace

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uh and he crumpled to the court and i

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uh and he crumpled to the court and i

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ran over to him

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ran over to him

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um

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not knowing what to say but watching the

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not knowing what to say but watching the

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diplomatic security guys

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diplomatic security guys

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who are providing protection

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who are providing protection

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you know

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you know

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laughing

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laughing

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um

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laughing well to them they wonder where

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laughing well to them they wonder where

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my next assignment was schultz was not

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my next assignment was schultz was not

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happy

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happy

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um i like that that man a great deal but

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um i like that that man a great deal but

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he was not happy and all he could say

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he was not happy and all he could say

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was get back to the baseline and serve

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was get back to the baseline and serve

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your second serve

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your second serve

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um at any rate i liked them all i

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um at any rate i liked them all i

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respected them all schultz through

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respected them all schultz through

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powell

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um the one that i would argue and none

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um the one that i would argue and none

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of them would dispute this

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of them would dispute this

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was james baker

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was james baker

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baker was the most effective secretary

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baker was the most effective secretary

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of state in my judgment since

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of state in my judgment since

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henry kissinger

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henry kissinger

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in terms of accomplishments there were

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in terms of accomplishments there were

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obviously asterisks and deficits

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obviously asterisks and deficits

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with each of them

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with each of them

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but baker was an extraordinary

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but baker was an extraordinary

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negotiator an unbelievable actor

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negotiator an unbelievable actor

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based on his experience in washington

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based on his experience in washington

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and an aspiring politician as well his

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and an aspiring politician as well his

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memoirs are called the politics of

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memoirs are called the politics of

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diplomacy

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diplomacy

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and

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and

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i think baker had it right one of the

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i think baker had it right one of the

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reasons baker was so successful

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reasons baker was so successful

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in the middle east and it is my

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in the middle east and it is my

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conviction by the way

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conviction by the way

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that had rabine not been murdered

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that had rabine not been murdered

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and bush 41 gotten a second term

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and bush 41 gotten a second term

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we would have succeeded in in getting

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we would have succeeded in in getting

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one agreement

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one agreement

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either between israel and syria

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either between israel and syria

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or

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probably less likely

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probably less likely

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between israel and the palestinians

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between israel and the palestinians

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it was also baker who

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it was also baker who

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in his memoirs described

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in his memoirs described

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the time i walked into the k it walked

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the time i walked into the k it walked

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in a cable to him

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in a cable to him

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uh

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uh

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terminating the u.s pillow dialogue

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terminating the u.s pillow dialogue

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because a small member of the pilot's

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because a small member of the pilot's

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executive committee the arab liberation

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executive committee the arab liberation

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attempted a terror attack against an

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attempted a terror attack against an

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israeli beach in 90.

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israeli beach in 90.

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baker was very frustrated and he looked

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baker was very frustrated and he looked

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at the cable

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at the cable

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signed it which would effectively have

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signed it which would effectively have

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instructed bob pelatro or as our

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instructed bob pelatro or as our

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ambassador in tunis to terminate the

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ambassador in tunis to terminate the

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dolly looked at me and he said threw the

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dolly looked at me and he said threw the

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cable up in the air

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cable up in the air

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and looked at me and said aaron in his

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and looked at me and said aaron in his

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texas accent said aaron in my next life

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texas accent said aaron in my next life

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i want to be a middle east negotiator

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i want to be a middle east negotiator

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just like you because i know i'll be

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just like you because i know i'll be

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guaranteed permanent source of

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guaranteed permanent source of

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employment

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baker was baker was an extraordinary

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baker was baker was an extraordinary

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secretary of state

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secretary of state

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and

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and

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exactly the kind of secretary of state

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exactly the kind of secretary of state

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we needed not just with respect to the

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we needed not just with respect to the

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arab israeli issue

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arab israeli issue

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i described baker as someone

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i described baker as someone

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who

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who

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for whom the world was an unassembled

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for whom the world was an unassembled

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jigsaw puzzle

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jigsaw puzzle

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on his living room floor

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on his living room floor

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and baker was great at seeing how the

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and baker was great at seeing how the

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pieces connected

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pieces connected

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and then understanding

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and then understanding

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the needs and requirements of the

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the needs and requirements of the

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parties

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and tough enough

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and tough enough

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and

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and

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accommodating enough

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accommodating enough

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to bring them to an agreement i watched

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to bring them to an agreement i watched

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on the road to madrid a procedural

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on the road to madrid a procedural

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breakthrough admittedly

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breakthrough admittedly

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but i i repeat what i said you earlier

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but i i repeat what i said you earlier

steve

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steve

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steve

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had ruby not been murdered and had bush

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had ruby not been murdered and had bush

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41 gotten a second term with baker bush

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41 gotten a second term with baker bush

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rabin

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rabin

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and either assad or arafat

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and either assad or arafat

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i think we

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i think we

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it was a pretty good chance we would

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it was a pretty good chance we would

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have reached

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have reached

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a single agreement and

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a single agreement and

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perhaps you and i would be having a

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perhaps you and i would be having a

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different kind of conversation today

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different kind of conversation today

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yes we certainly would have under those

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yes we certainly would have under those

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conditions

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conditions

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um

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um

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we could talk about that but let's move

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we could talk about that but let's move

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on you're out of government

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on you're out of government

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um uh in the last several years how has

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um uh in the last several years how has

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it been different

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it been different

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and um

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and um

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and and what are your

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and and what are your

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feeling and greatest accomplishments in

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feeling and greatest accomplishments in

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the outside world

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the outside world

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uh working with so many

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uh working with so many

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uh individuals

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uh individuals

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uh who are very interested in these

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uh who are very interested in these

topics

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topics

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topics

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yeah i'll be very blunt about this

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yeah i'll be very blunt about this

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nothing i will ever do professionally

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nothing i will ever do professionally

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or is consequential

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or is consequential

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despite

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despite

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uh the fact that failure

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uh the fact that failure

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seemed to be the hallmark

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seemed to be the hallmark

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of the 20-plus years that i spent doing

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of the 20-plus years that i spent doing

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this

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this

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as those years

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as those years

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inside nothing

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inside nothing

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those 20 years

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those 20 years

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and anyone who served in government for

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and anyone who served in government for

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an extended length of time and had

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an extended length of time and had

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respect for the institutions and was

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respect for the institutions and was

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prepared to cope with the uncertainties

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prepared to cope with the uncertainties

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and the hardships

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and the hardships

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particularly the family that

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particularly the family that

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those years generated

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those years generated

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would realize that

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would realize that

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government is a question of turning the

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government is a question of turning the

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m

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m

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in me

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in me

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upside down

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upside down

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so it becomes a w

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so it becomes a w

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the experience outside of government

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the experience outside of government

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is

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is

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at least my experience outside of

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at least my experience outside of

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government was fundamentally different

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government was fundamentally different

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i've tried to link what i've done

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i've tried to link what i've done

to

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to

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to

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a broader purpose and a greater good

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a broader purpose and a greater good

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i've spent the last

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i've spent the last

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18 years

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18 years

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since leaving government trying to

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since leaving government trying to

explain

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explain

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explain

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to the world or anyone who would listen

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to the world or anyone who would listen

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why we

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why we

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did not succeed and what would have been

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did not succeed and what would have been

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required

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required

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uh not just in arab israeli peacemaking

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uh not just in arab israeli peacemaking

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but what is required to have

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but what is required to have

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an effective

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an effective

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and meaningful foreign policy that has

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and meaningful foreign policy that has

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involved a lot of mayo culpas

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involved a lot of mayo culpas

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it's involved a lot of

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it's involved a lot of

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looks in the mirror

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looks in the mirror

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but i think i was obligated

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but i think i was obligated

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to do that because writing op-eds and

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to do that because writing op-eds and

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talking on tv

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talking on tv

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it's yeah it's great it's a lot of fun

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it's yeah it's great it's a lot of fun

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but what's it tethered to

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but what's it tethered to

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what is the broader purpose

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what is the broader purpose

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yeah education for the purpose of

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yeah education for the purpose of

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education enlightenment all that's fine

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education enlightenment all that's fine

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but it's untethered from a broader goal

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but it's untethered from a broader goal

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and my goal was to demonstrate

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and my goal was to demonstrate

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why we behave the way we do and why we

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why we behave the way we do and why we

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still behave the way we do and i i have

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still behave the way we do and i i have

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i believe

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i believe

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that

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that

uh

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uh

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uh

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part of the explanation lies in the fact

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part of the explanation lies in the fact

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that we don't

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that we don't

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understand the world

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understand the world

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largely because of our geographic

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largely because of our geographic

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location

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location

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we're the only great power in the

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we're the only great power in the

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history of the world the only one there

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history of the world the only one there

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are no exceptions

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are no exceptions

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none

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none

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that had non-predatory neighbors to our

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that had non-predatory neighbors to our

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north and south

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north and south

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and literally fish to our east and west

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and literally fish to our east and west

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where one historian i wish it had been

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where one historian i wish it had been

me

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me

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me

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described as our liquid acids

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described as our liquid acids

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these two oceans

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these two oceans

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and these non-predatory neighbors

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and these non-predatory neighbors

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separate us from every other country

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separate us from every other country

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with which and every other leader with

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with which and every other leader with

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whom we deal we have freed ourselves

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whom we deal we have freed ourselves

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from the forces of history and geography

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from the forces of history and geography

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in a way no other nation in the world

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in a way no other nation in the world

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has or will ever have

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has or will ever have

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that's true of the of russia china iran

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that's true of the of russia china iran

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north korea the israelis palestinians

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north korea the israelis palestinians

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the egyptians

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the egyptians

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it doesn't matter they are haunted by

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it doesn't matter they are haunted by

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these two forces

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these two forces

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our physical location has freed us from

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our physical location has freed us from

them

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them

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them

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the nature of our political system when

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the nature of our political system when

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it was functional

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it was functional

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the abundance of natural resources the

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the abundance of natural resources the

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very size and openness of this country

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very size and openness of this country

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has given us an opportunity and it

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has given us an opportunity and it

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explains a lot it explains our arrogance

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explains a lot it explains our arrogance

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because we have a margin for error that

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because we have a margin for error that

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is virtually larger than any other

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is virtually larger than any other

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country we can make many mistakes

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country we can make many mistakes

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without threatening the existence of

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without threatening the existence of

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this republic it explains our naivete

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this republic it explains our naivete

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i don't think we understand the

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i don't think we understand the

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mentality of the small power and when

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mentality of the small power and when

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they say small power i think it equally

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they say small power i think it equally

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applies to a country like china

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applies to a country like china

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haunted by the forces of history and

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haunted by the forces of history and

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geography in ways that we're not and it

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geography in ways that we're not and it

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explains our practicality in pragmatism

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explains our practicality in pragmatism

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we somehow wrongly believe that every

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we somehow wrongly believe that every

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problem in the world must have a

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problem in the world must have a

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solution

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solution

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if only rational

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if only rational

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men and women would sit down

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men and women would sit down

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through enlightened dialogue and

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through enlightened dialogue and

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discourse and the meeting of basic needs

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discourse and the meeting of basic needs

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and requirements

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and requirements

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everything would be okay

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everything would be okay

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but i'm a neburian

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but i'm a neburian

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i'm a follower of the great protestant

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i'm a follower of the great protestant

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theologian reinhold nebor

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theologian reinhold nebor

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proximate solutions

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proximate solutions

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to insoluble problems

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to insoluble problems

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i don't see how anyone can look at the

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i don't see how anyone can look at the

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world today

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world today

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and identify a single issue one just

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and identify a single issue one just

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give me one issue

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give me one issue

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that is tractable and resolvable

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that is tractable and resolvable

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in a way that is final and determinant

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in a way that is final and determinant

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what to do about iran's putative nuclear

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what to do about iran's putative nuclear

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weapons aspirations what to do about the

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weapons aspirations what to do about the

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fact that kim jong-un

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fact that kim jong-un

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has an arsenal what to do about chinese

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has an arsenal what to do about chinese

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china is a rising power what to do about

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china is a rising power what to do about

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putin's skillful use of russia as a

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putin's skillful use of russia as a

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declining power

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declining power

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what to do about the arab-israeli issue

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what to do about the arab-israeli issue

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and the israeli-palestinian issue what

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and the israeli-palestinian issue what

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to do about syria and what do we do

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to do about syria and what do we do

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about afghanistan

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about afghanistan

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we do not have it within our power

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we do not have it within our power

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to refashion the internal

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to refashion the internal

contexts

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contexts

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contexts

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characters and systems

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characters and systems

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of the nations

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of the nations

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with which we deal we need to be

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with which we deal we need to be

very

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very

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very

humble

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humble

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humble

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and careful

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and careful

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in the use of american power if that is

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in the use of american power if that is

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our goal

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our goal

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because we're likely to fail

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because we're likely to fail

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so your explanation of our mess in

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so your explanation of our mess in

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afghanistan is what you just said is

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afghanistan is what you just said is

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there anything else that particularly

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there anything else that particularly

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explains uh our 20 years in afghanistan

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explains uh our 20 years in afghanistan

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and getting involved and trying to

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and getting involved and trying to

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change the country and then messing it

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change the country and then messing it

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all up or or being messed up i i think a

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all up or or being messed up i i think a

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a an administration that had to contend

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a an administration that had to contend

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with a frightening moment and i'll never

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with a frightening moment and i'll never

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forget driving down to the state

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forget driving down to the state

department

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department

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department

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on that beautiful

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on that beautiful

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bright sunny morning on september 11th

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bright sunny morning on september 11th

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listening to some radio station talk

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listening to some radio station talk

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about a small plane hitting one of the

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about a small plane hitting one of the

towers

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the fear the uncertainty

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the fear the uncertainty

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the shock

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the shock

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of what occurred

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of what occurred

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you know the word for religion

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you know the word for religion

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comes from the latin religio or religio

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comes from the latin religio or religio

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meaning to adhere or to bind i think 911

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meaning to adhere or to bind i think 911

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created in the minds of many senior bush

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created in the minds of many senior bush

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administrations official officials

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administrations official officials

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a kind of religion

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a kind of religion

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and i think that religion

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and i think that religion

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iraq and afghanistan

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iraq and afghanistan

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there would have been no iraq and

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there would have been no iraq and

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afghanistan without 9 11. the single

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afghanistan without 9 11. the single

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bloodiest day in american history

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bloodiest day in american history

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with the exception of

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with the exception of

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the battle of antietam in sharpsburg not

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the battle of antietam in sharpsburg not

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far from

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far from

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and i think

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and i think

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the early successes

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the early successes

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of

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of

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american

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american

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counterinsurgency and caa operatives and

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counterinsurgency and caa operatives and

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limited use of american military power

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limited use of american military power

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that fall

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that fall

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um

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um

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basically was turned into a counter

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basically was turned into a counter

insurgency

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insurgency

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insurgency

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whose primary objective was

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whose primary objective was

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to eliminate the insurgents

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to eliminate the insurgents

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by eliminating the cause

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by eliminating the cause

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and the systemic reasons

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and the systemic reasons

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that there was an insurgency

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that there was an insurgency

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and i know a lot of liberal

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and i know a lot of liberal

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interventionists and neo-conservatives

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interventionists and neo-conservatives

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who both come together in this you want

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who both come together in this you want

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to end the war on terror well the way

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to end the war on terror well the way

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the way to stop terrorism in the world

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the way to stop terrorism in the world

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is to get to the systemic roots

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is to get to the systemic roots

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of what causes it the sectarian

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of what causes it the sectarian

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intentions the loss of identity the

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intentions the loss of identity the

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alienation the bad governance the empty

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alienation the bad governance the empty

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spaces the lack of the corruption fine

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spaces the lack of the corruption fine

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it's a wonderful

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it's a wonderful

notion

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notion

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notion

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but how do you operationalize it

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but how do you operationalize it

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it's a combination of arrogance and

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it's a combination of arrogance and

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ignorance that was stunning

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ignorance that was stunning

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epically stunning and then

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epically stunning and then

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knowing we launched into afghanistan we

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knowing we launched into afghanistan we

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then got distracted by

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then got distracted by

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afghanistan was a war of necessity

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afghanistan was a war of necessity

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originally we were attacked we responded

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originally we were attacked we responded

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iraq was a discretionary war

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iraq was a discretionary war

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what vital interests were involved

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what vital interests were involved

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in order to summon the greatest

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in order to summon the greatest

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projection of american military power to

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projection of american military power to

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vietnam a country country roughly the

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vietnam a country country roughly the

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size population wise of the state of

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size population wise of the state of

california

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california

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california

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was invaded and occupied

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was invaded and occupied

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its political structure stripped bare

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its political structure stripped bare

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its army disbanded with insufficient

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its army disbanded with insufficient

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american forces and a woeful knowledge

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american forces and a woeful knowledge

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of iraq

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of iraq

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i mean

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i mean

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is the problem america

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is the problem america

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or is it particularly administrations

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or is it particularly administrations

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that go off

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that go off

uh

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uh

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uh

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off the base and get us into trouble i

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off the base and get us into trouble i

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mean 911 was an idiosyncratic

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mean 911 was an idiosyncratic

event

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event

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event

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other than pearl harbor which was an

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other than pearl harbor which was an

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attack on american territory but

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attack on american territory but

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certainly not an attack on the

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certainly not an attack on the

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continental united states there's been

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continental united states there's been

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no other event

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no other event

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so you could argue that 911 created

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so you could argue that 911 created

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the need for an idiocrat idiocratic

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the need for an idiocrat idiocratic

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response a response qualitatively and

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response a response qualitatively and

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quantitatively different than anything

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quantitatively different than anything

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the united states had ever done

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the united states had ever done

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and i i say again no 911

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and i i say again no 911

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no afghanistan no iraq

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no afghanistan no iraq

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i don't know which page of baker's

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i don't know which page of baker's

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memoirs in the politics of diplomacy

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memoirs in the politics of diplomacy

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contains two paragraphs

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contains two paragraphs

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which lays out why the first bush

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which lays out why the first bush

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administration decided not to go to

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administration decided not to go to

baghdad

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baghdad

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baghdad

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it's prudence

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it's prudence

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it's discretion

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it's discretion

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it's restraint

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it's restraint

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it's matching means and ends it's

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it's matching means and ends it's

understanding

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understanding

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understanding

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that when america goes to war the issue

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that when america goes to war the issue

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is not just can we do it

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is not just can we do it

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it's should we do it it's what does it

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it's should we do it it's what does it

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cost

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cost

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it's what is the relationship between

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it's what is the relationship between

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the means at our disposal and the

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the means at our disposal and the

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political objectives that we seek to

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political objectives that we seek to

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to achieve all of these things

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to achieve all of these things

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were not addressed

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were not addressed

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and i i just find it astounded and there

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and i i just find it astounded and there

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will be by the way no accountability

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will be by the way no accountability

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there'll be no accountability because

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there'll be no accountability because

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this is a this is an environment that is

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this is a this is an environment that is

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too partisan to summon up

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too partisan to summon up

consensus

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consensus

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consensus

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accountability there'll be no uh

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accountability there'll be no uh

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um accountability

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um accountability

because

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because

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because

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it spans three administrations four if

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it spans three administrations four if

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you count the byte administration

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you count the byte administration

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scores of humans

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scores of humans

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official

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official

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at the department of defense cia the

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at the department of defense cia the

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executive branch and congress

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executive branch and congress

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there'll be no accountability because

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there'll be no accountability because

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we're still in one of those enterprises

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we're still in one of those enterprises

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it's called iraq

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it's called iraq

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who's going to investigate an ongoing

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who's going to investigate an ongoing

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conflict the roots of an ongoing

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conflict the roots of an ongoing

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conflict because you cannot do

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conflict because you cannot do

afghanistan

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afghanistan

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afghanistan

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without doing iraq

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without doing iraq

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so in my judgment there'll be no

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so in my judgment there'll be no

accountability

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accountability

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accountability

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so what what do

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so what what do

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we do now i mean the argument is we had

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we do now i mean the argument is we had

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to get out of afghanistan because we

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to get out of afghanistan because we

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have so many other problems from china

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have so many other problems from china

uh

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uh

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uh

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uh uh to uh

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uh uh to uh

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more possible attacks on the united

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more possible attacks on the united

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states and and friends of ours uh

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states and and friends of ours uh

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especially now that that the taliban's

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especially now that that the taliban's

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return so

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return so

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where do we go now what do we do

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where do we go now what do we do

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how do we avoid what you've described

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how do we avoid what you've described

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for the last five years

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for the last five years

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i've had one talking point

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i've had one talking point

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you've heard it before

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you've heard it before

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and i'll say it again

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and i'll say it again

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and it is this

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and it is this

um

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um

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um

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and i believe truly that if if joe biden

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and i believe truly that if if joe biden

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was on this call

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was on this call

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and you asked and

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and you asked and

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and he was brutally honest

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and he was brutally honest

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he would say exactly what i'm about to

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he would say exactly what i'm about to

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say to you

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say to you

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and that's this

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and that's this

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and i say this as an american let's

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and i say this as an american let's

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let's be clear here

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let's be clear here

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with all the selfishness and

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with all the selfishness and

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sort of solipsism and focus

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sort of solipsism and focus

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on what's good for this country there is

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on what's good for this country there is

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no single foreign policy issue out there

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no single foreign policy issue out there

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not a one

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not a one

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that is more damaging or potentially

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that is more damaging or potentially

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dangerous

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dangerous

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to this republic

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to this republic

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and certainly to the

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and certainly to the

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biden presidency

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biden presidency

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than the three or four interlocked

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than the three or four interlocked

crises

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crises

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crises

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challenges call them whatever you want

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challenges call them whatever you want

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and it's not as if we're not prepared we

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and it's not as if we're not prepared we

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can't walk and chew gum at the same time

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can't walk and chew gum at the same time

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oh yeah we can have a foreign policy we

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oh yeah we can have a foreign policy we

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can do foreign policy but governing is

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can do foreign policy but governing is

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about choosing

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about choosing

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fdr once said of lincoln

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fdr once said of lincoln

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because he couldn't have everything

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because he couldn't have everything

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this is our most undeniably greatest

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this is our most undeniably greatest

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president who in his seven years

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president who in his seven years

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probably did more

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probably did more

to

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to

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to

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save now not just preserve the union

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save now not just preserve the union

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but to create a second american

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but to create a second american

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revolution and create a basis

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revolution and create a basis

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on which we presume to

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on which we presume to

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to anchor and tether the forces of

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to anchor and tether the forces of

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racial equality and fairness in this

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racial equality and fairness in this

country

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country

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country

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13th 14th and 15th amendments of the

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13th 14th and 15th amendments of the

constitution

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constitution

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constitution

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were all products of lincoln's

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were all products of lincoln's

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leadership even though

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leadership even though

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he was alive for only one of them

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he was alive for only one of them

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now i'm not sure he even saw that the

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now i'm not sure he even saw that the

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passage of that he saw the house vote on

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passage of that he saw the house vote on

it

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it

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it

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um no for me

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um no for me

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that's<00:38:10.800> not

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that's not

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that's not

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governing is about choosing

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governing is about choosing

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we need to we need to fix

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we need to we need to fix

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our own broken house

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our own broken house

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because that is the source of our

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because that is the source of our

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resilience our power

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resilience our power

our

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our

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our

values

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values

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values

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the whole moral basis for what the

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the whole moral basis for what the

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american experiment represents

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american experiment represents

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in my judgment is compromised

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in my judgment is compromised

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and undermined

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and undermined

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i mean i i don't you know not everyone

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i mean i i don't you know not everyone

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so many people disagree with me they

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so many people disagree with me they

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think i'm too hard on america

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think i'm too hard on america

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no it's the it's uh it's the it's the

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no it's the it's uh it's the it's the

reverse

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reverse

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reverse

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i'm selfishly focused

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i'm selfishly focused

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on what is required to try to fix

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on what is required to try to fix

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what ails the nation and we cannot do it

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what ails the nation and we cannot do it

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by espousing grandiose

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by espousing grandiose

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proclamations on foreign policy

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proclamations on foreign policy

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that aren't tethered to reality you

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that aren't tethered to reality you

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cannot divide the world as the bible

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cannot divide the world as the bible

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administration has done into democracies

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administration has done into democracies

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and autocracies

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and autocracies

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that's a nice frame of reference but

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that's a nice frame of reference but

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it's not an operating

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it's not an operating

principle

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principle

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principle

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for what is still the most consequential

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for what is still the most consequential

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nation on earth how do you solve climate

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nation on earth how do you solve climate

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without russia and china

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without russia and china

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how do you preserve biodiversity

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how do you preserve biodiversity

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without working with regimes who don't

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without working with regimes who don't

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share your values how do you deal with

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share your values how do you deal with

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the issue of nuclear proliferation

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the issue of nuclear proliferation

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without somehow finding a way to deal

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without somehow finding a way to deal

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with iran

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with iran

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or north korea

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or north korea

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and how do you deal with the greatest

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and how do you deal with the greatest

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threat

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threat

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to the world since the second world war

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to the world since the second world war

covid

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covid

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covid

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and all of its variants

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and all of its variants

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this covid

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this covid

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was the most world altering event

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was the most world altering event

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since the second world war

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since the second world war

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and it has demonstrated

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and it has demonstrated

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the failure of globalization of

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the failure of globalization of

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multilateral diplomacy

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multilateral diplomacy

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of looking at the world as a united

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of looking at the world as a united

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unified whole

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unified whole

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and it's dangerous

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and it's dangerous

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so

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so

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so

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you know i i come back to what i

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you know i i come back to what i

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we got to get america right

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we got to get america right

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and i say that knowing how hard a

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and i say that knowing how hard a

challenge

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challenge

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challenge

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it's going to be

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it's going to be

well

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well

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well

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let's try to analyze this as we uh

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let's try to analyze this as we uh

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grow near to our conclusion and that is

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grow near to our conclusion and that is

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covet in the world extremely

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covet in the world extremely

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important uh uh point um

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important uh uh point um

how

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how

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how

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how do we do it why haven't we paid more

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how do we do it why haven't we paid more

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attention because you can't get rid of

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attention because you can't get rid of

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kovid by just scheduling and we're

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kovid by just scheduling and we're

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having enough trouble at home getting

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having enough trouble at home getting

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rid of it here

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rid of it here

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why isn't there more attention

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why isn't there more attention

uh

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uh

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uh

and

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and

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and

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uh what do we do

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uh what do we do

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because when nations are faced with

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because when nations are faced with

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excess you know covid was on paper

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excess you know covid was on paper

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the only existential threat that we that

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the only existential threat that we that

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we have faced existential in the sense

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we have faced existential in the sense

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that on paper it threatened the

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that on paper it threatened the

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well-being of every single human in this

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well-being of every single human in this

country

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country

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country

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you can't get any more existential than

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you can't get any more existential than

that

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that

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that

um

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um

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um

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i i think part of it lies in the fact

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i i think part of it lies in the fact

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that during periods of stress

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that during periods of stress

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and tension and threat

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and tension and threat

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nations focus more on guarding and

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nations focus more on guarding and

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preserving their own national

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preserving their own national

sovereignty

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sovereignty

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sovereignty

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their own health structures their own

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their own health structures their own

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economies the tendency is not to share

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economies the tendency is not to share

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i mean i'm i'm thinking back on a movie

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i mean i'm i'm thinking back on a movie

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called the day the world so

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called the day the world so

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stood still there are a couple different

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stood still there are a couple different

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iterations but the movie ends the aliens

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iterations but the movie ends the aliens

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threaten the united states the movie

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threaten the united states the movie

ends

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ends

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ends

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with the security council or the u.n

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with the security council or the u.n

arguing

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arguing

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arguing

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about whether or not they can rise to

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about whether or not they can rise to

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the challenge of uniting

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the challenge of uniting

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the world or face destruction by the

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the world or face destruction by the

aliens

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aliens

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aliens

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so i don't

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so i don't

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i mean

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i mean

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as a practical matter

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as a practical matter

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you're going to need to create

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you're going to need to create

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indigenous sources of production for

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indigenous sources of production for

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vaccines in various countries

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vaccines in various countries

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we have 1.7 billion doses

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we have 1.7 billion doses

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that's five for every human in this

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that's five for every human in this

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country

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uh can we be more generous

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uh can we be more generous

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in terms of vaccine distribution

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in terms of vaccine distribution

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absolutely but that won't that won't fix

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absolutely but that won't that won't fix

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the problem you're going to have to

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the problem you're going to have to

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create indigenous sources of production

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create indigenous sources of production

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which is going to mean dealing with the

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which is going to mean dealing with the

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pharmaceuticals and

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pharmaceuticals and

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companies and patents

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companies and patents

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and i i think i would argue to you it's

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and i i think i would argue to you it's

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kind of already too late i mean how many

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kind of already too late i mean how many

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people in the world eight billion how

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people in the world eight billion how

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many people have actually been

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many people have actually been

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vaccinated seven billion

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vaccinated seven billion

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i mean one billion

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i mean one billion

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the majority of the world is not

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the majority of the world is not

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vaccinated

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vaccinated

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and that creates a huge petri dish for

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and that creates a huge petri dish for

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the spread of of variants and obviously

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the spread of of variants and obviously

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and and all of the human destruction

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and and all of the human destruction

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that goes along

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that goes along

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with this disease the uncertainty the

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with this disease the uncertainty the

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devastation of the economy social

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devastation of the economy social

structure

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structure

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structure

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all of that

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all of that

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so why aren't we doing more proximate

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so why aren't we doing more proximate

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solutions to insoluble problems why

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solutions to insoluble problems why

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steve because why don't we have a

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steve because why don't we have a

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comprehensive policy on anything in this

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comprehensive policy on anything in this

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country why don't we have a

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country why don't we have a

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comprehensive policy on irrational

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comprehensive policy on irrational

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policy on gun control why don't we have

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policy on gun control why don't we have

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a rational policy on

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a rational policy on

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health care

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health care

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why are we still struggling

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why are we still struggling

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decades later without a policy rational

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decades later without a policy rational

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policy on immigration

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policy on immigration

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we love declaring war on things there's

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we love declaring war on things there's

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the war on drugs there's a war on crime

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the war on drugs there's a war on crime

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there's a war on poverty there's the war

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there's a war on poverty there's the war

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on terror there's the war on mental

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on terror there's the war on mental

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illness the war the war on racial

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illness the war the war on racial

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injustice

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injustice

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we don't win these wars because they

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we don't win these wars because they

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require solutions that are odds with the

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require solutions that are odds with the

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very nature of the political system that

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very nature of the political system that

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the founders

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the founders

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established

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established

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they set up a system

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they set up a system

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with three branches of government shared

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with three branches of government shared

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and separated powers which is

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and separated powers which is

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essentially an open invitation to

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essentially an open invitation to

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struggle and to argue and you know why

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struggle and to argue and you know why

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they did it they did it because they

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they did it they did it because they

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feared the concentration of power either

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feared the concentration of power either

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by the royal governors and certainly by

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by the royal governors and certainly by

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the king

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the king

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and we live with that system today

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and we live with that system today

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that's why i argue

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that's why i argue

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in my in my book why we can't have which

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in my in my book why we can't have which

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is i think easier to explain than why we

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is i think easier to explain than why we

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don't want another great president you

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don't want another great president you

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need three things for greatness in the

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need three things for greatness in the

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presidency you need a crisis that is so

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presidency you need a crisis that is so

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hot so irreparable

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hot so irreparable

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that it forces everybody into a

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that it forces everybody into a

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situation where they have no other

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situation where they have no other

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choice than to agree to an accretion of

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choice than to agree to an accretion of

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power by the central government and then

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power by the central government and then

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you need the other two c's you need the

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you need the other two c's you need the

character

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character

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character

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you need character and you need capacity

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you need character and you need capacity

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in the man and one day woman who will be

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in the man and one day woman who will be

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president the three c's of presidential

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president the three c's of presidential

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greatness crisis opens the door

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greatness crisis opens the door

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character and capacity

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character and capacity

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are the qualities that you need for

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are the qualities that you need for

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presidents to know what to do with the

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presidents to know what to do with the

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crisis that's why we've only had three

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crisis that's why we've only had three

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undeniably great presidents one in every

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undeniably great presidents one in every

century

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century

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century

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i won't identify them for you because i

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i won't identify them for you because i

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think one in each century you'll be able

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think one in each century you'll be able

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to figure that out on your own

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to figure that out on your own

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and that's why we haven't had another

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and that's why we haven't had another

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great president undeniably great

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great president undeniably great

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president since franklin roosevelt with

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president since franklin roosevelt with

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all of his imperfections and

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all of his imperfections and

transgressions

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transgressions

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transgressions

well

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well

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well

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so i can't i can't answer your question

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